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the fiscal cliff. something that could crush the consumer. all of which means it's a very confusing moment. we want to stick with best of breed that can come bouncing back whenever our leaders reach a deal. companies like ascena retail group, asna. formally known as dress barn. we've been fans because they have a terrific model. own multiple niche brands, maurice's for 20-something women, dress barn, appeals to a more middle aged woman, and charming shops, giving them two successful plus-sized chains. i believe in this deal because they have a record of making transitions work. the stock got slammed today, falling 4.3%, they delivered a four-cent earnings beat, revenues were in line, but still rose 48% year-over-year. and they reaffirmed their guidance for 2013, numbers slightly less than what some on wall street were expecting. what happened here, i think, is the stock ran 35% for the year. expectations got to elevated for some, well, they say they were disappointed. let's talk to the president and ceo of ascena retail group to learn more about the quarter and the profits. welcome back to
" with liz claman. liz: the fiscal cliff talk is everywhere, always good to be hearing about lately, but is there really something else that can be bubbling under the surface that could send the market into a tailspin that we should be talking about now? join me in a fox business exclusive, 2003 nobel laureate in economics and nyse will institute director. he has a whole institute for volatility. spotting risk. we thought let's bring you in and talk about noo the fiscal cliff of the three hidden risks people should be talking about but aren't. how did you identify them? >> there are lots of things people worry about, but which of the really big ones and what kind of a timefram time frame ae talking about? decade?out next week or next we talk about the big risk to have to look further in the future. liz: the next year or so? 20 years, 50 years perhaps. number three. you say it's all the unfunded pension liability risk globally, how is that a hidden risks? >> there are pension funds like social security which are not well funded in the future, that is one of the big topics of the fisc
respond said fiscal cliff, that sounds like something i probably studied in school. no. this is new. this is something that they've just fresh baked up for us. >> brian: this generation made it up! >> gretchen: they'll be paying for it. >> steve: for a long, long time. our children and children's children, consider the amount of dent this president has run up. this could be good news. the president of the united states did speak with speaker boehner yesterday on the phone. we know nothing about the call except they talked on the phone. we do know that the last offer, the counteroffer was made by the republicans. they're waiting for the white house. the white house at the same time says come on, we don't have another counteroffer because your last offer was a stinker. you, republicans, need to come up with a new one. >> gretchen: the thing is, they're playing hard ball right now. the white house has sent out tim geithner, the treasury secretary, instead of the president actually, to lead the negotiations and when he was asked yesterday in an interview, tim geithner, that is, whether
the fiscal cliff? >> it reminds me about something i probably learned in school. but some type of cliff, the economy going pow. >> isn't that the government? this is embarrassing. >> brian: how many people really know what it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra and today scarlet. >> brian: and the day before, victoria secret models. >> gretchen: what a week! >> steve: one of the young people when did respond said fiscal cliff, that sounds like something i probably studied in school. no. this is new. this is something that they've just fresh baked up for us. >> brian: this generation made it up! >> gretchen: they'll be paying for it. >> steve: fo
and in perfect news but the truth is consumer confidence and the fiscal cliff talk could say have something to do with all of it. >> no doubt about it new survey out from reuters, michigan in early december we saw consumer sentiment drop to the lowest level that we have seen since august. that suggests, according to analysts that the increased taxes they are expecting from this fiscal crisis is weighing on consumer spending right now. the other side of this though, of course, is vice president biden went to a diner today to talk to some middle class folks and he basically said he has been talking to business leaders to say the converse of this is if there is a fiscal deal business leaders tell him the economy will be unleashed. take a listen. >> the upside is even bigger than the downside. they are ready to move they have well over a trillion dollars out there continue to vest if they think that the economy is going to move. >> and i have been talking to officials in both pears who say that has been the most surprising thing to leaders in washington here in private is that the markets have remain
they have been hearing about higher taxes. i do think with all of the media coverage of the fiscal cliff, consumers are starting to recognize that there is something going on. i think people are more aware. i still think those people feel like something will get done at the last minute. i think they are aware that there are some risks out there. melissa: michelle, you are fantastic. thank you so much. >> thank you. take care. adam: some people think investing sometimes is too good to be true. what is the government's (in nailing steve cohen? charlie: i do not think people are focused on the fiscal cliff. they will not be focused until you see the market sell off. the market believes there will be a deal. until the market trade-off -- adam: we have a guest who will be talking about that a little later on as we get closer to the end of the year. the investigation is still underway. charlie: when you see the market trade-off you watch people freak out. interesting thing about steve cohen, there is no more remarkable trader out there than this guy. say what you want to about him. if you look
... who were touting a phantom menace known as the fiscal cliff. am i right about that? >> fiscal cliff is not a phantom menace. the deficit right now is. the notion that something terrible will happen if we don't deal with the deficit right away. the fiscal cliff is a very different story. that's about reducing the deficit too fast. >> ifill: you call it an austerity bomb. describe what you mean by that. >> what's happening is that we are scheduled, unless something is done basically to do to ourselves gratuitously what has been happening to some of the european economies. we're going to have substantial spending cuts, substantial tax increases at a time when the dme is still very weak. of course that's a recipe for sliding back into recession. we set ourselves up with the land mine and the road in front of our economy which is not based on anything real, it's just based on our politicalness. >> ifill: speaking of political mes both ses have what the say are opening gambits on the table. president obama at least his last week which calls for $1.6 trillion in revenues. the republicans c
bit about the fiscal cliff and that's something we've all been talking about recently, and what it means for us right now and the year ahead. we also have other business news. we'll get back to the president by the way if and when we get that feedback. he will be taking questions from the audience there of business leaders as gregg mentioned. elizabeth mcdonald ever the fox business network is standing by list toning some of what the president had to say about the economy. liz, can you place it in context about where our economy is right now. >> reporter: the president just now was placing it in the -- the economy in the broader context of what is going on in the world, mentioning asia, mentioning europe, and then he turned to what was the most important part of the speech, he started to speak and that is what is holding us back ironically is stuff that is going on in this town, and he also, the president also said, no one wants to get a deal done more than me. so he's trying to essentially give some encouragement to get the fiscal cliff deal talks ignited and going. and so this
,000, if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. >> and this ongoing political game of chicken is something one of the chairmen of the debt commission simply calls madness. >> when you have leaders of parties and people from the administration saying i think it will be to the advantage of the democrats to go off the cliff or i think it will be advantage to the republicans to go off the cliff or the president to go off the cliff, that's like betting your country. there's stupidity involved in that. >> willing to go over the cliff, i guess they are but they also don't believe republicans are going to go over the cliff. >> he can win politically but the costs, doesn't you agree, would be tremendous not only to him but to the economy and to our country. >> and we want to bring in and say good morning to congresswoman diane black, a republican from tennessee, a member of the house budget and ways and means committee. con
this anticipation of the fiscal cliff and beyond? >> i think ben is on to something in terms of the effectiveness of it. over the last few years, monetary policy was a catalyst to move money into the marke on a capital allocation basis. you saw the jolt in the market, then it plateaued. heading into next yeerar, monety policy becomes part of the base. the jolt is fiscal policy. a little transparency on that front. the big switch is on. i think they going to use more words than action. >> they've been using that very effectively. and it actually moves markets. just the language. >> he didn't buy one bond. he said three words and spanish and italian yields drops three basis points. >> what were the three words? >> whatever it takes. >> that's good. markets like whatever it takes, i guess. rick santelli, loeet's talk job. that's tomorrow. some noise in this report. early thanksgiving, hurricane sandy. is this rally at the end of the day having anything to do with any anticipation of the jobs report? what are you looking for? >> no, i don't think so. we're looking for almost exactly half. we had 171,
:. miss something? head to "mad money".cnbc.com. >>> with the fiscal cliff looming less than a month away you might think certainly sectors would be getting hammered right now. not the obvious ones like defense. given the defense budget will be cut dramatically if our leaders don't reach a compromise, take retail. if we go over the cliff, something i've been telling you as of this week, more likely by the day, not less, that will deal a huge blow it purchasing power of most americans. think about it. tax rates go up. >> boo. >> the payroll tax holiday goes away. [ buzzer ] unemployment benefits expire for most people -- [ baby crying ] and that's is not even accounting for the layoffs. that's just being cautious. put it together, unless we get a deal, which won't be bad news for the single biggest consumer play out there, which is retail. so even though we're having a real good holiday shopping season that we're seeing so far. pbh told us that. you expect retail to be in trouble. once the holidays ends, things can get a whole lot worse. not just the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago aggregate r
, something extra -- for you. >>> everybody is waiting for the fiscal cliff. i went down to the capitol this morning to see how things are progressing. i got more negative when harry reid said it is unlikely that a deal will be done by christmas. i'm thrilled to have senator john hovan, a republican from north dakota who has been an advocate here with us tonight. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim, good to be with you. >> i noticed that you are for a bipartisan situation and one of the things that tells me that you are for real is that you have not signed a pledge that would make it so that you cannot vote for a tax increase. it should be a big deal on the order of four trillion dollar over ten years. get growth in our economy and the kind of deal that inincludes tax reform and better spending control. >> when you were governor of your state you previded over what i think is the single greatest employment boom. is washington so different that you wish you were back home? >> you have been out to north dakota, but you are right. the fundamentals don't change. certainty we can put those t
. they are on vacation. how did the people leave? we have the biggest fiscal crisis of i don't know how long, something to do something about it? it's one thing to have a big recession. it's another thing when the problem is of your own creation, and you turn your back on it. what do you make of this? >> well, it's a very dangerous situation. if we go over the cliff, the taxes go up $39 # -- $395 billion, spending slashed, a plunging economy, a recipe for a recession, something no american needs to hear about now. getting past the fiscal cliff is an imperative. we are having a one-sided conversation. the republicans have put out a plan saying raise revenue from reach people, banseed, spending cuts, and that landed with a thud over in the white house, no response, and the president has yet to put out a balanced plan, and what we got is i want $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. give it to me. gerri: and rid of the debt ceiling. >> we've seen this movie before. no ceiling, give me the revenue, i'll spend it. now what? until cuts are in place, this doesn't make sense. gerri: i want to hear what ann coulter said
americans who can see their income taxes go up similar to the photo-op, the fiscal cliff photo-op of yesterday which was the president meeting with the middle class family. now to jobs. we have something of a surprise report. jobs turned out to be up up. the jobless rate is down and the word from the government is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs, not great but good. a third of that came from the retail sector. 53,000 jobs added. professional and business services up 43,000. leisure and hospitality up. construction, though, lost 20,000 jobs. we should note that jobs numbers were revise d downward, though, for september and october. in september it was revised from 148,000 gain to 238,000. went from 138,000 to 132,000. this month, the 7.7 is a full point lower than where we were at this time last year. so what are we supposed to make of these numbers and does the november report provide us a real sense of where this recovery is right now? let's bring in the man we like to bring in ev
tend to think of this medium and long term risk as the fiscal avalanche. the cliff is something we are approaching now and we can see where it is. we know will hit the cliff. the avalanche is different. the only thing you know about avalanches, you know when the conditions are present. you know when the snowpack has built up to the point where it could happen. you do not know when it is going to happen, you just know it is coming. once it hits you, the avalanche becomes completely impossible to control. do you agree with this characterization about the avalanche? could you elaborate about that kind of threat? >> would you mind if i steal that from you? i will give you credit. i think it is right. i do think -- that is why what you're doing now is so important. this is a once in a generation opportunity for you to nail these things down. we're not that far apart. i really do not think we are. if you are able to put us on a credible path to fiscal sustainability, do it in a balanced way, i think we are golden. i think we will avoid that avalanche. if we do not do that, ultimately, it
off that fiscal cliff represents a disastrous failure of leadership at the top level and i think we need to demand better. >>> also speaking of something better we got this simple prescription from tony. after watching all the republicans and democrats cheering together at the last washington redskin game maybe rg3 should be asked to negotiate the fiscal cliff discussions. i'm just saying. i'm wishing it was so, tony, but i think managing those characters over on pennsylvania avenue might be too much even for our rookie phenom. i'd settle for him whooping the ravens gangnam style. i also want some e-mail. the address here mailbag@wusa9.com. that is our broadcast. i'll be right back here at 11:00 along with anita brikman and topper shutt and tonight we've got an emotional story about a woman who died during childbirth and how her best friend stepped up to raise her three children. don't forget, log on any time you like to www.wusa9.com. you have a great evening. we'll see you a bit later. bye bye. ♪ "e.t." >>> demi moore's wild night out caught on camera. >>> her bizarre behavior i
input. this is something that the white house has proposed as part of their fiscal cliff proposal. it's a nonstarter for republicans. but he wanted to put it on the floor to show that even democrats don't support giving the president that kind of authority. he did that and harry reid turned around and said, let's see if we can do it with a simple majority for 51 votes and democrats it appeared had made sure they had that and then mitch mcconnell in return ended up objecting to the very thing he propose eed. take a listen. >> now the republican leader objects his own idea. i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill. >> so this was some maneuvering that went on. mitch mcconnell won the day when he proposed a vote overall on the entire fiscal cliff proposal and harry reid objected to it. it's a little bit of a back and forth going on in the midst of these talks that are now reopened. >> you can't filibuster your own bill. that makes no sense. >> apparently you can. >> thank god it's friday. thank you. we appreciate the update. >>> other stories making news that are not all crazy. >> i
. with the fiscal cliff -- with that feeling debacle, i think it was the last straw. people felt they were just too entranced and. charles: here is the thing. we are not the country that needs to be. we have $16 trillion in debt. forget about the people with the pom-poms. our situation is awful. isn't there a need for a group of regular citizens to voice their discontent with the idea. our children and grandchildren don't have any shot at reclaiming the glory that was once everybody. >> i think what you just said it describes how most of the country feels. everyone is concerned about that. there is room for people that will hold people accountable. what happened with the tea party is they really weren't holding everybody accountable as much as being extremely partisan and a sense of being so intel obama -- anti-obama. but i think that there has to be a sort of allowance. i am not putting this just on the tea party. you get these ideological purists who want all or nothing. that is just not the way the country works. so i think you have to find middle ground. charles: i have to tell you something. t
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were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut down. between the fiscal cliff and senate come when my has seen it up to 200,000 jobs added. instead we're looking at something more like 100,000 we think. not very good. >> tara mergener, thank you. you can apply for official federal assistance immediately. the deadline is this month for some workers. for more affirmation, call 288- 9050. >> 33 degrees at the airport. after some criticism, could apple be in sourcing its next big project? >> will you be putting fewer gifts under the christmas tree this year? >> a day that still lives in infamy. the anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. >> scattered showers today. >> more and more motorists >> more and more motorists getting out on the area roads ♪ oh, what fun it is to ride... ♪ get in the holiday spirit with dunkin's peppermint mocha, new white chocolate, or gingerbread flavors today. america runs on dunkin'. >> we take a look outside. clatter skies. 42 degrees downtown. chillier when you get away from the airport. we have some rain fall approaching from the west. i
to actually get something done to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and what's going on in those negotiations that we don't know. >> exactly. so we going to talk to the man who may know right? >> the man who's wired in washington. >> exactly. bob woodward knows the white house and he's covering washington for years. he'll be on later this morning. >> announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by international delight coffee creamers. what's your i.d.? who thinks two is better than one? so all of you do. yes, for sure. now what's better? being able to shoot two lasers out of both of your eyes at the same time or just one laser out of one eye? [ all kids ] two! [ moderator ] okay, why? if it's just one beam -- okay, it does a little bit of damage. two beams -- it will make something explode! and that's more fun? yeah! and it's more powerful you're saying? yeah! [ male announcer ] it's not complicated. doing two things at once is better. and only at&t's network lets you talk and surf on your iphone 5. ♪ ♪ online outfit piccolo headphones buy now broadway show meg
the fiscal cliff. political reporter pat warren was with social security employees as they protested in baltimore today. >> reporter: marylanders at home and in washington know what's at stake. >> sequestration is something that we have to make sure we avoid. >> over half a million marylanders depend directly on the federal government for their job. >> the middle class has suffered enough. all marylanders will be affected if we allow the fiscal cliff to happen. >> reporter: while they hash it out on the hill, they are urging to work together to avoid automatic increases and spending cults set for the -- cuts set for the end of the year. >> a group demonstrating made their feelings known, urging a resolution that does not include cuts in social security jobs and services. >> we're concerned about the cuts to social security. and we would like to see things change. and we don't want to see our public hurt in any way. we want to serve the public every day. >> you don't take money out of people's hands when you're trying to promote jobs. >> this is
to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, the disastrous i ask unanimous consent sequences of our not acting, tax increases for every american taxpayer, massive cuts to defense at a time when the threats around the world are as varied and as great as we've seen in a long time. other essential programs of the federal government being affected by that. that's the last thing we need in this tepid economy with a lot of people out of work and hoping for some consensus to come together to provide a -- a long-term solution to our fiscal problem that continues to have a negative effect on our economy and more importantly, keeps people out of work. and so as that clock ticks, some are saying, well, partisanship is just too great in washington. the country's too divided. we're not going to be able to reach a consensus here in terms of how to address this problem. i disagree with that. over the last two years, and more, we have had a number of proposals brought forward on a bipartisan basis. it started with simpson-bowles, the former chief of staff to president clinton and al for a lon time, recognized
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're going to have the issues of the fiscal cliff. i would say for something like mcdonald's, though, it does historically trade with a staple and could benefit from consumer tradedown. i would be less concerned about it specifically for that company. but you are right, we do continue to see declining trends in cruise, and las vegas gambling, and other segments we do cover. >> specifically on the restaurants, it was raised by the journal over the weekend, is there a structural change now, having gone throthe recession about the willingness of people to pay for this sort of luxury? do you think that we've had a substantial change that could last for years? >> i think people have better options. they have anything from the salad bar at whole foods. they can trade up, they can trade down. they have very good options for eating at home. i think the problem is, that the pie isn't growing that much. you have about a half a point of population growth. and you have expansion in all types of food categories. that competes for people's dollars. you're right, people are pretty value sensitive and they'r
for the american economy. >> an added wrinkle to the fiscal cliff talks is the debt ceiling, with the government on pace to reach its borrowing limit early next year. the white house stated its position on the 14th amendment, which some theory rise is a way for the president to raise the debt limit independently, should republicans attempt to use it as a negotiating tool. >> i can say that this administration does not believe that the 14th amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling, period. >> the fiscal cliff talks reached a new low yesterday when, somehow, the new york jets got dragged into it on the senate floor. >> it's not one of my favorite teams, but it's really, really fun to watch, and that's the new york jets. coach ryan, he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, he's got another guy. he can't decide who their quarterback is going to be. that's the same problem republicans are having. romney's gone, but he's still in the background. we have mcconnell and we have boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? who is the quarterb
sandy and anxiety over the fiscal cliff affecting job growth. adp showing the private sector created 115,000 positions last month. the expectation was about 125,000. it comes ahead of friday's key employment report and to talk about that and more, our senior economics reporter steve leisman joins us from washington. steve, we'll talk about your interview with secretary geithner in a moment but let's talk about those economic numbers. what about today's, what about friday's? >> before i get to the adp number, i have new information i've been able to report on the way down here from new york. that is, be prepared on friday for potentially, especially in the household survey that creates the unemployment number. be prepared for potentially big sandy effects. let me tell you why. we had an early thanksgiving this year. 11/22. the 22nd of the month. what happens on those kind of years is that the bls moves back the survey week from the 12th which is the normal survey week in this case, to the 5th. what was the fifth? it was the week that really the worst effects of sandy in terms of people no
. >> host: what are the obstacle of the fiscal cliff? >> guest: it's an optimist in the christmas season. we got right to the last minute before what could've been a government shutdown in april of 2011. because the last minute on the fiscal cliff. i don't think it's a good way to do business. >> host: if we were to go over, what happens? >> guest: well, you know, probably congress would be back in session pretty quickly and hopefully we would do something like i'm talking about right now. that's what we should do it early. and continue to negotiate. it's not just a question of dollars and cents. effort some people say let the race club in republicans get some data call that a tax cut. people lose faith in the institution and the political leadership. trust is a very funny commodity. you have it until you don't. when you lose the trust of the american people it's not like you get back to doing the right thing the next day. we should convince the country and the markets that can make smart decisions and to compromise and again this would be a step in the right direction of showing we can work
. >> this compromise or set of compromises that gets us over the fiscal cliff will set the stage for president obama to craft a compromise and demographics. the republicans know they have to compromise and get something done on immigration. tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the higher number of women increases the chances. we will see. >> i saw the women here smiling. we were talking about how collaborative they were. the guys, not so much. >> we don't smile. i agree. the more women the better. i'm agreeing with you. can i say nothing? i said the more women, the better. i'm agreeing with you. the more women, the less self destructive egos and getting to a deal.
scott is an upand coming star . jimdemint's personal pick. >> steve: jay carny. the fiscal cliff thing. the average person really has no idea what that stands for. if you watch that. >> brian: you much the package. >> steve: no idea. something we learned about in school . i forgot about it. jay carny revealed yesterday. gretchen just said it is not a tax problem it is the way they waste our money. jay carny said deficit reduction is not the goal. are you kidding? here he is. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been specific about that. >> brian: he's talking about generalitiys about unnamed cuts. jay carny goes on to admit if the president's propo
to back away from the fiscal cliff. political reporter pat warren was with social security employees as they protested in baltimore today. >> marylanders at home and in washington know what's at stake. >> sequestration is something that we have to make sure we avoid. >> over hamp a million-- half a million marylanders depend directly on the maryland government for their job. >> the middle class has suffered enough. all will be affected if we allow the fiscal cliff to happen. >> reporter: taxes and cuts bring governor o'malley and a bipartisan group of governors to washington to offer their thoughts on the fiscal cliff, urging republicans and democrats to work together to avoid automatic increases and spending cuts set for the end of the year. in baltimore, a group of demonstrators outside the social security office made their feelings known, urging a resolution that does not include cuts in social security jobs and services. >> we're concerned about the cuts in social security. and we would like to see them change. and we don't want to see our p
kids and the next generations. and on the right the road on the right is the fiscal cliff. really that the is choice if we don't do something about it we are going to go anyway. do you run over the kids with the car or do you take the other road which is not a good one but better than running over your kids fiscal cliff. it's a hard choice. >> but if we don't do it, if we don't go over the fiscal cliff the democrats will never cut a dime in spending. >> why would the democrats want change? if the bush tax cuts are going to expire they are saying this is great because this means the rich are going to pay more money, we are going to have more money to spend. they are already spending a the lo. they are saying why would we want change? this is great we have more money to spend. >> nancy pelosi saying why aren't we voting on middle class tax cuts? get to the other stuff. put this up for a vote: listen to nancy pelosi. we are not here to pass the middle income tax cut why are we here to not deat a time the middle income tax cut. could it be that the republicans are holding the middle i
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.b.o. and the federal reserve have both forecast the -- if we have the fiscal cliff, unemployment will go up substantially. is that something you're willing to see happen if the republicans continue to refuse to compromise? >> we've kicked the can down the road for too long. we're not going to do it anymore. we want certainty. the only way to have certainty is to have the rich pay a little bit more. the meetings with the business round table and other groups i've met with, including the business round table, the people who are making this money, they're willing to pay the extra money. the american people believe they should pay the extra money. there's polls out today, by a 2-1 mar general the american people believe this to be the case. the only people in america who disagrow with that are republicans who serve in the building we're in now. >> are you willing to allow that forecast recession -- >> the president has been very clear. he's been very clear, i've been very clear. republicans have to make sure they allow the rate increase to take place. >> is there a way to have any kind of stiml
in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thank you so much. lori: let's continue this discussion. it is going to happen, it is exactly what the democrats want. according to scott hodge of the tax foundation. what are some alternatives to raising revenue? joining me with some ideas. to your point, you're written quite extensively on this topic. it seems the economy is poised to fall off the cliff and that's what the democrats and the president wants to happen. >> they want to allow all the bush tax cuts to expire. it happens naturally automatically. they don't even have to vote for it. in january we had to lower taxes for everybody. getting it very simply. lori: a lot of people are concerned. if we do go over the cliff, there's no resolution fo
it is today. everyone is this availing the economic data and the fiscal cliff. what is more important is how the jobs data affect negotiations on the fiscal left. it is up for jobs report tomorrow it will affect the negotiations and there will be urgency to get something done because everyone concerned about getting jobs. it nicole: everyone is concerned about jobs. back to you. ashley: thank you so much. back in 15 minutes. like a rudderless ship floating in the ocean, the markets description of the day. tracy: poetic. this is not. housing and urban development secretary shaun donovan on hot seat on capitol hill is grilled on the f h a and whether taxpayers foot the bill for multibillion-dollar bailout. gerri willis has this story. we have been waiting for this. gerri: that is will be looking at. off the top of my head. shakespeare is clocking in his grave right now. ashley: quite an image of. gerri: let's talk about fha and how much trouble they are in. they guarantee the mortgage loans. not that they are actually making them but the agency has lost $70 billion of loans in two years, 2007-
. it is not something still lingering in the senate. it is in the house. the issue of the fiscal cliff, what's it mean? it is probably the most known phrase in politics. they say, you have to wait for everything. people understand you have to do a piece of the puzzle. you can do it today. the opportunity to keep this economy moving, it has done very well the last few years. we always wait for the big deal and something never happens. this is a chance for the middle class tax cut. i would encourage every day, what is holding it out? -- it up? you will see yourself getting a tax cut for the remainder of next year if we just move them forward. again, it is finished of the senate side. >> i want to thank my colleagues for the leadership on the steering committee in this area. we have senator olympia snowe, bill kristol of the weekly standard, like simpson of idaho. david brooks. walter jones. the national review. we're here to say that passing the middle class tax cut is the right thing to do. you don't need to take our word for it. 2/3 of the american public agree with us. you don't need to take that wor
different. are you hearing that social security might be something that's also included in the fiscal cliff deal? >> well, i'm hearing the democrats want to block that. they don't want the social security part of the deal. but the republicans are kind of insisting on it. that puts the white house in kind of a difficult position. that's one of the many issues holding up this deal right now. >> the political leverage in all of this, of course, some head pulling, indicating republicans would bear most of the blame if we go over the so-called cliff. last week's survey found that 21% of americans would blame president obama and the democrats. 23% say they would blame the republicans. 52% would be annoyed with both parties equally. is it really clear at this point who would be blamed? >> i think the -- >> i'm sorry. excuse me. >> it's okay. i think members of congress bear the brunt of this, especially the house. they're going to be the odd man out. i think in the end voters, if the deal does not happen, the house will carry a lot of blame for it. >> two member numbers very imp 39.6%, 35%. the p
americans do not realize. everyone in washington is talking about the fiscal cliff and the tax increases that might come from that. but today i want to talk about something different. those are the tax increases that are coming regardless of what happens with the fiscal cliff. and those are the tax hikes that we're seeing because of president obama's health care law. people who have been following this closely know that president obama's health care law guarantees that middle-class families will pay higher taxes. the president promised repea repeatedly that he would not raise taxes on the middle class. as a matter of fact he said -- quote -- "if you're a family making less than $200,00200,000a year, my plan won't raise your taxes one opiniony. not your income taxes, not your payroll taxes, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." that's what the president said. but once he got into office, president obama arranged for his health care plan to be written behind closed doors. democrats in congress passed it, and they did it strictly along party lines. this law has included more
at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. both sides mum on any details simply releasing statements saying that the lines of communication are open. it is now down to the wire for some something to happen that lawmakers can approve. there still needs to be enough time for the house and senate to review the legislation to debate it and possibly to pass it. we're back after the break. >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. that pork chop was great! no more fast food friday's! we're going to go to
in there a little bit too. i love him too. also, they have two jobs to do. taxes, fiscal cliff. why do you have to bring in social security and medicare and fix something that's not broke? >> stephanie: social security's case, we keep saying doesn't add a penny to the deficit. >> it is absurd. if you're going to curtail something or act like something is horribly busted, then i would say the military expenditures that go into effect because of the sequestration actually are something that's a crucial. they're going to drop off immediately and the spending on them is overtly far beyond its necessity. >> stephanie: it is more than the military asks for. congress is trying to give them more. >> to do what with? it is not like they're not ahead technologically from -- on every front. >> but we need to be able to blow up the world 150 times not 147. >> stephanie: otherwise we're french and gay. ron in illinois, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi ron. >> caller: good morning, steph. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller
this discussion, this economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in recession. >> if something goes wrong, the fed has no arrows left in its quiver. >> we're checking our lists as the "squawk on the street" countdown to christmas continues. ho, ho, ho. ♪ >> andrew ross sorkin is bringing lloyd blankfein on stage. let's take a look. here's goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein. >> a number of people have touched on the fiscal cliff, and i wanted to start with that, but in a different way with you this morning, in that you have been active in washington over the past couple of weeks and all this. you've been on the phone with the white house. i've read reports that you were on the phone with the white house earlier this week. just if you could, take us behind the scenes. what goes on on these conference calls with the business community? sort of what do you see actually happening right now? >> i don't want to oversell this. i was on a couple of conference calls that the white house had with myself and other people who participated in meetings at the white house. i
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